Montag, 6. Juli 2009

Lipizzan




This is a foto from Col.Podhajsky's book, "The White Stallions of Vienna". It is taken in the same place as the foto in the previous post 'Who and Where is this'.
There is no description of the foto. It is a color plate added after the book was printed, so I don't know if it is in every edition.There are several color plates and none of them has a description! But in this one, you can see the riders face and it may be easier to identify him.

Kisses
Romy

17 Kommentare:

  1. hmmmm.......
    Hard to tell......
    .....it's a rider, as seen on the shabrack......

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  2. Col. Podhajsky was very colorful in his descriptions of pictures, but often did not identify horse and rider or include dates.

    Romy

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  3. I think this is former OB Franz Rochowansky!

    He was supposed to be the "crown prince" of Col. Podhajsky, and foreseen successor as director.
    But (as more in those times...) he had a principal dispute with Col.Podhajsky, and left the SRS. First he went to Holland (invited by the sisters Van Doorne, who were in the Dutch national dressage team in those times). Later he went to England. He stayed there for the rest of his life. Some years ago he passed away there, at high age.

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  4. It is possible that Podhajsky took this foto himself. Quite a few pictures in several of his books are his.
    Do you know if OB Rochowansky continued to teach in England?

    Kisses
    Romy

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  5. Romy,

    Which edition of "White Stallions of Vienna" contained this photo? A page number would help too...

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  6. Re Rochowansky...

    It is possible... He was not promoted to Oberbereiter until 1952. So, if the date of 1950 is correct, it could well be Rochowansky. I will contact someone who was Rochowansky's student and see if they recognize the photo or photos...

    Yes, Rochowansky taught in England until very near his death in 2001. He was 90 at the ime of his death

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  7. Hi John :-)
    It is from 1963. It is in English, but says printed in Germany. The color plate is not numbered, it is opposite plate 117. These color plates are not printed into the book, they are all seperate pieces added after printing. So, as I said, I don't know if every edition has them or has them printed seperately.

    Kisses
    Romy

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  8. Romy,

    There are 3 different English editions of White Stallions of Vienna. The first two were published in 1963 - one in the USA (New York) by E. P. Dutton and the other in London by Harrap. The other edition is a reprint of the 1963 Harrap edition. The reprint was published by Sportsman's Press in 1985.

    That's why I asked which edition. If yours is the 1963 US edition, the additional color photos may be different than the British editions...

    John

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  9. John,
    Mine is E.P. Dutton, New York 1963. I could post more of it or the cover if that would help. Do you have the British version?

    Kisses
    Romy

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  10. Yes, I have the British version(s). Since yours is the US edition, they may have substituted photos taken in the US for the color plates in the British editions... I saw a copy of the original German edition "Triumph der Lipizzaner" some years ago but I don't recall any color photos in it at all...

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  11. I got a reply to my email to one of Rochowansky's students. He said that this photo does indeed look like a young Rochowansky. He also said that the only picture he has of Rochowansky from the same era is very similar to the rider in this photo but his photo is too indistinct to be certain...

    So, the best guess is that this is Rochowansky...

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  12. John,
    Thank you for finding the information.

    Is it not amazing the depth of knowledge to be found on this site, with all of these great people so willing to share what they know and track down the elusive facts!!!
    I am deeply appreciative and truly honored to share my little knowledge with you all and to learn from so many well informed, caring friends.

    Kisses
    Romy

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  13. I ran across a similar photos in several of Podhajsky's books. I believe the horse may be Favory Brezia. An in-hand photo of a horse performing the Levade (with the saddle pad bearing the same markings is "Favory Brezia and his stone model in Hellbrunn." and appears in Podhajsky's "Das Grosse Buch Der Spanischen Hofreitschule" published in 1978. In a 1955 program, Favory Brezia performs the Levade and is under saddle with Rider Weibold.

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  14. Yes, I found the same photo last night. I had forgotten it was in "Das Grosse Buch"... So, we now know the horse was Favory Brezia and that the rider in 1950 was likely to have been Rochowansky who left the School in 1955. Presumably, Weibold took on Brezia when Rochowansky left.

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  15. Is there a credit for the photographer? I would love to know who took the pictures.

    Kisses
    Romy

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  16. Bei aller Diskussion, wer es auch immer sei, hier wurde auf langem Wege schon bei der Lipizzanerzucht angefangen..) ein Kunstwerk für wenige Augenblicke erschaffen. Große Bewunderung!

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  17. Yes, it absolutely is!! The only art that is created by the perfect cooperation of two living beings, so different from each other.

    Romy

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