I cannot help but wish that she could have stayed the course...both gals are symbolic inspirations for me--symbols of a dream I had as a child and could not achieve.
However, personal happiness is a precious thing, so along with Romy, I wish her the best in her future endeavors.
It's a dream of many to become a part of the SRS, but on the other hand it's a big challenge in many ways, I guess. I can imagine it's not always easy, especially when you're so young. You must be a bit crazy to go for it ;-)
I have spent nigh on 40 yrs training students in dressage jumping circus and 3 dy event and have been sucessful in all of these I was always against woman riders at the school in my experience the majoity of young girls dont stay very long when boyfriends come along young guys are usualy much dedicated I was incredably lucky to work with lorna clarke international eventer and now TV presenter Charles Harris Bumble Bartle (Jane & Chris mum] had sessions with Nuno last time he was here in england also have worked with Mary Chipperfield and Yasmine Smart two of the greatest animal trainers on the earth. Charles was living with alois pod for a few years at the SRS ,years later he became a gr8 help and support for me and was a massive help in my education understanding the Horse. he left me his score for one of his books which I will treasure forever.
Lets get back to Basics Leave the School as it has always been A MEN only instituion some of the greatest riders on earth are women no doubt about that but the school is in a very different space !!!
sorry but I totaly disagree. look into the history ! I cannot possible be accused of beng a chauvnist I live as an openly gay man and have stood up all of my life for womens rights it has been a major thread in my life so please do not insult my intelligence
Somehow understandably that Sojourner left... Just 17 or 18 years old, completely alone in Vienna, far away from her family, not native speaking German... Quite something!
Poor Hannah... she is the only girl now... she will be overwhelmed by all attention (and pressure?), I guess.
I noted that article also. But I have the impression that the "Austrian Times" is a "sensationalist" newspaper and was not sure if they were reporting accurately all the facts. I felt maybe they were adding drama. Is it so? Have the other newspapers picked it up?
Very hard for me to understand why she felt that way. I would have thought she understood the training program before she started. To feel frustrated because it would take much time is not sensible. Whether she rides well or not, she would still have had to take the time to train a horse, that can't be rushed.
I think you are right. When she was first accepted, she may not have realized how much a lifetime commitment it is, how full of very hard work and infinite patience.
I don't think that is correct. In the past, no one outside of the school would have known anything about it. With the internet, news is disseminated quickly across the entire world. People with an interest in the school and Lipizzans, [all of us on this site:-) ] are able to know what is happening in real time. This is the first time, I believe, that most of us, in whatever country, even knew that 4 new Eleves were accepted at the school. So, are the words spent discussing the events at the school wasted? No, I don't think so. We are interested, we want to know, and it is good also for the school to be talked about, for people to spread news of the school. How else will people, who have never heard of the school, be introduced to it's rich history?
So you mean, if a boy leave the school, the excitement would have been the same? It´s allways the "Black-one- of-the-three-kings"-topic. Spanish Ridingschool was ever known in whole the world, and- if people are interested in, they had since ever possibilities to enlarge their informations. So what will be, if everyone knows, how many elèves the Institute has. More important is THE DOCTRINE, which is given from generation to generation.
Und für mich ist die Tatsache, dass die Schule in heutiger Zeit besteht, eh ein Wunder, und dass der Lipizzaner die Zeit überlebt, wo Prachtentfaltung und Schönheit den Stellenwert dem "Sportpferd"-grausliches Wort- abgegeben hat. Laßt uns des Wunders bewußt sein und uns daran erfreuen.
I think it sad that she turned her back on such an honour, but perhaps the strict lifestyle of hard work and study for little money and little glory at the start did not suit her personality. Maybe it is not possible to know this until you try. It is a shame though, because there are many I am sure who would give everything for such an opportunity and would make all the sacrifices necessary. I have seen over here in the US girls who want to go into competition after just a few lessons, who do not want to go on a lunge line ever - and my daughter has had great difficulty finding someone who will allow her to develop her balance and seat on a line, most of the trainers in our area want competition as well - it has frustrated my daughter no end. I also lived and worked in Germany as a youngster and though my German was and is reasonably good (except for the grammar) it was tough at first, and quite lonely - however I ended up staying 10 years and loved it - would love to be there now. I do not think we will know for sure how well women can do at the school until one goes the course and shows us - I wish them success and though I understand only too well the traditions of the school, and tradition in general - many changes have been made at the school over the years, and this is just another one. I wish Hannah success and any others who may have the honour in the future to join her. I think it was quite courageous of the SRS to allow female applicants and in the end it may not be such a terrible thing.
She wants to carry on with her studies and travel.
So very sad that she left!! I wish her very much good for her life and hope all her dreams come true.
AntwortenLöschenSojourner was one of the two female eleves we accepted 2008.
AntwortenLöschenI cannot help but wish that she could have stayed the course...both gals are symbolic inspirations for me--symbols of a dream I had as a child and could not achieve.
AntwortenLöschenHowever, personal happiness is a precious thing, so along with Romy, I wish her the best in her future endeavors.
It's a dream of many to become a part of the SRS, but on the other hand it's a big challenge in many ways, I guess. I can imagine it's not always easy, especially when you're so young. You must be a bit crazy to go for it ;-)
AntwortenLöschenIt's a great pity though...
youth is wasted on the young.
AntwortenLöschengood luck to sojourner.
So you have an opening then? ;-)
AntwortenLöschen'Tis far, far better to have tried and not succeeded than to never have tried at all.
AntwortenLöschenI have spent nigh on 40 yrs training students in dressage jumping circus and 3 dy event and have been sucessful in all of these I was always against woman riders at the school in my experience the majoity of young girls dont stay very long when boyfriends come along young guys are usualy much dedicated I was incredably lucky to work with lorna clarke international eventer and now TV presenter Charles Harris Bumble Bartle (Jane & Chris mum] had sessions with Nuno last time he was here in england also have worked with Mary Chipperfield and Yasmine Smart two of the greatest animal trainers on the earth. Charles was living with alois pod for a few years at the SRS ,years later he became a gr8 help and support for me and was a massive help in my education understanding the Horse. he left me his score for one of his books which I will treasure forever.
AntwortenLöschenLets get back to Basics Leave the School as it has always been A MEN only instituion some of the greatest riders on earth are women no doubt about that but the school is in a very different space !!!
AntwortenLöschenI sure hope that you're a troll because that is one of the most ridiculously chauvinistic things I've read in a very long time.
AntwortenLöschenHaving dangly bits does not in any way, shape or form change one's dedication, desire or drive.
The girls look/looked fine at the school. Seriously...
sorry but I totaly disagree. look into the history ! I cannot possible be accused of beng a chauvnist I live as an openly gay man and have stood up all of my life for womens rights it has been a major thread in my life so please do not insult my intelligence
AntwortenLöschenSomehow understandably that Sojourner left... Just 17 or 18 years old, completely alone in Vienna, far away from her family, not native speaking German... Quite something!
AntwortenLöschenPoor Hannah... she is the only girl now... she will be overwhelmed by all attention (and pressure?), I guess.
The press noticed the leaving of Sojourner as well:
AntwortenLöschenSee: http://www.austriantimes.at/index.php?id=13623
I noted that article also. But I have the impression that the "Austrian Times" is a "sensationalist" newspaper and was not sure if they were reporting accurately all the facts. I felt maybe they were adding drama. Is it so? Have the other newspapers picked it up?
AntwortenLöschenThe "Wiener Zeitung" has also published a message with a comparable story. As far as I know, this is a serious newspaper.
AntwortenLöschenLink: http://wienerzeitung.at/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=3902&alias=wzo&cob=417005
Wiener Zeitung is very serious.
AntwortenLöschenVery hard for me to understand why she felt that way. I would have thought she understood the training program before she started. To feel frustrated because it would take much time is not sensible. Whether she rides well or not, she would still have had to take the time to train a horse, that can't be rushed.
AntwortenLöschenHow sad, what a fantastic opportunity seemingly wasted. I think she might regret her decision when she is older (and wiser?).
AntwortenLöschenI think you are right. When she was first accepted, she may not have realized how much a lifetime commitment it is, how full of very hard work and infinite patience.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
And if it would be a boy, nobody had lost a word....
AntwortenLöschenI don't think that is correct. In the past, no one outside of the school would have known anything about it. With the internet, news is disseminated quickly across the entire world. People with an interest in the school and Lipizzans, [all of us on this site:-) ] are able to know what is happening in real time. This is the first time, I believe, that most of us, in whatever country, even knew that 4 new Eleves were accepted at the school. So, are the words spent discussing the events at the school wasted? No, I don't think so. We are interested, we want to know, and it is good also for the school to be talked about, for people to spread news of the school. How else will people, who have never heard of the school, be introduced to it's rich history?
AntwortenLöschenRomy
So you mean, if a boy leave the school, the excitement would have been the same?
AntwortenLöschenIt´s allways the "Black-one- of-the-three-kings"-topic.
Spanish Ridingschool was ever known in whole the world, and- if people are interested in, they had since ever possibilities to enlarge their informations.
So what will be, if everyone knows, how many elèves the Institute has.
More important is THE DOCTRINE, which is given from generation to generation.
Und für mich ist die Tatsache, dass die Schule in heutiger Zeit besteht, eh
ein Wunder, und dass der Lipizzaner die Zeit überlebt, wo Prachtentfaltung und
Schönheit den Stellenwert dem "Sportpferd"-grausliches Wort- abgegeben hat.
Laßt uns des Wunders bewußt sein und uns daran erfreuen.
I think it sad that she turned her back on such an honour, but perhaps the strict lifestyle of hard work and study for little money and little glory at the start did not suit her personality. Maybe it is not possible to know this until you try. It is a shame though, because there are many I am sure who would give everything for such an opportunity and would make all the sacrifices necessary. I have seen over here in the US girls who want to go into competition after just a few lessons, who do not want to go on a lunge line ever - and my daughter has had great difficulty finding someone who will allow her to develop her balance and seat on a line, most of the trainers in our area want competition as well - it has frustrated my daughter no end. I also lived and worked in Germany as a youngster and though my German was and is reasonably good (except for the grammar) it was tough at first, and quite lonely - however I ended up staying 10 years and loved it - would love to be there now. I do not think we will know for sure how well women can do at the school until one goes the course and shows us - I wish them success and though I understand only too well the traditions of the school, and tradition in general - many changes have been made at the school over the years, and this is just another one. I wish Hannah success and any others who may have the honour in the future to join her. I think it was quite courageous of the SRS to allow female applicants and in the end it may not be such a terrible thing.
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