So many of the illustrations in Charles Harris's book make me smile, make me think or just help me understand. I have posted a very few of my favorites. With so many different riders here, I am sure we all have slightly different favorites. If you have some you would like to see, tell me which and I will post them.
This one makes me laugh out loud! If you have read his book, you know why. :-))
AntwortenLöschenI love this analogy! So easy for anyone to understand. And very funny!
AntwortenLöschenSo very, very true!! I laugh and shake my head when asked by non-riders "Well, how hard can riding be? You just sit there on the horse." Yeah, Right!!!
AntwortenLöschenI truely agree sadly the second diagram simply shows the nowadays all to horrendous hollow back and "perched" seat I have very much enjoyed your posting over the last few hours Bobby xx
AntwortenLöschenI thought you would, Bobby.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
lol one only has to look at the dreadfull condition of "British" dressage in the last few years to see constant "over bent" horses supposedly working at novice to inter level for me to feel comfortable to rest my case!
AntwortenLöschenevery level the horse is comfortably working at should display his own body comfort I am fed up sick of seeing horses totaly "tied in" at the upper neck with chins not far from their chest while simply trying to move "forward"
The concept of the horse going 'forward into the hands' does seem to have been neglected in some places. Use of the hands alone to get a proper carriage can never work. The head behind the vertical is ugly and self-defeating, as the horse can never properly use himself.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
Lets all now refuse to condone horses ,working at any level, when they are working "held in" and totaly behind the vertical surely there can NEVER be an excuse for this and its about time the FEI and BD realised this very simple fact.
AntwortenLöschenthat all i have ever said the horse cannot ever possibly move forward whilst head tucked behind the vertical yet one only has to watch most of the competion "Dressage" horses these days to see grossly overbent unhappy animals I note that within the BD rules as laid down by their "outdated" comittee that the intention is to "produce happy and healthy athletes! how many athelets do you know who can perform with their chin tucked into there chest? try it sometime ! it just doesnt work!
AntwortenLöschenPutting the post back on topic. Tell me your favorite Harris illustration and I will include it here.
AntwortenLöschenBobby, you have valid arguments, but this is not the post for them. Please create a seperate post to discuss your concerns.
Romy
not sure how to Romy I dont like these machines and anytime I reply to posts that I find of interest I seem to get shouted down would love to have a really serious site to chat on
AntwortenLöschenone of my best memorys of charles was spending three hours whith him at the yard I had in Farnham UK 17 years ago when he had my ride 5 of my horses one after the other to work on the perfect 15mtr circle at first I could nt see the point! but towards the middle of the session it all became sence he was one of the finest trainers I totaly adored him
AntwortenLöschenanytime I had a problem with any of the horses I always knew that I could call him and he was always there to help he was an incredably special man his scottish wife was lovely too
AntwortenLöschenBoth of these pics scare me!
AntwortenLöschenthey are a perfectly fair comment
AntwortenLöschenYes, they are. That is why they scare me.
AntwortenLöschenperhaps its about time that some decent trainers came to the fore instead of "sitting" on the fence and not opening discussion?
AntwortenLöschenthis is not a comment directed at you but to many others who continue to hide in the shadows that are continuing to produce very unhappy horses
AntwortenLöschenWell, I would compare that to flying a supersonic airplane ;-)
AntwortenLöschenIt seems so simple when it is done by an expert
I love the breakfast one, for some reason I find that very amusing in the middle of a dressage book. It appeals to my weird sense of humour!
AntwortenLöschenAnd the breeches - yes, I know what you mean!! I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read about his first lunge lesson! :-D
Yes, can you imagine- him trying to impress, the riders trying not to laugh! I especially love his "dismount" ! Had to be great!
AntwortenLöschenRomy
True, true, true!! The aim of classical dressage riders--to make it look as though the rider thinks it and the horse does it, one unit.
AntwortenLöschenNot so easy to do.
{{kisses}}
Romy
Look at those funny little butts :-)))) now i will look different to a persons seat on a horse! i will remind me of these 2 little butts, in a funny way :-)))
AntwortenLöschenThamar,
AntwortenLöschenDon't you just love them!! I laugh when I read his book! I think of the chicken when I mount my horse. Poor little egg!
Romy
LOL I think i am a bad chicken! I would kill al my little egs :-(
AntwortenLöschenI got to much muscles in my butt LOLLOLOLOL :-)))))))))))))))))
We would both have scrambled eggs!!!! LOL :-)))))
AntwortenLöschen{{kisses}}
Romy
AntwortenLöschenNo one else has a favorite illustration to put up?
Romy
Due to the fact that I'm only just catching up with messages - I am quite puzzled - please help my understanding!
AntwortenLöschenOn 4th Sept 09 there were interesting exchanges relating to this topic & that seemed to be enjoyed by all parties ~ that were then interupted by notices advising:-
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Appoligies for not being able to keep up with you "guys" ,,, but what was posted that I ,,, & possibly others missed?
romyromy1 asks:-
No one else has a favorite illustration to put up?
I too have Charles' Workbook but can't help but wonder if I make comment or refer to a particular favorite ,,, is it worth the effort?
If I post something controversial - would it also be deleted?
No, only if you go consistently off topic. The topic in this post is favorite illustrations in Charles Harris's book. The poster was advised to create a seperate post to discuss his concerns. He chose not to.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
I would have thought that a living student of charles and his training was well in fitting to your use of his illustrations ! as always, I do not mean to cause any trouble I simply enjoy decent conversation However if my comments [on the free web] are to be deleted at someones whim!! I would rather not get involved in the future discussions, besides unlike some who seem to spend their entire lives on the internet I do actually have a full stable and farm to run ! All of my love to those who have messaged me , and for those who respect my Integrety I now intend to remove myself from ths site
AntwortenLöschenAdieu. Mais, qui va vous être le prochain? N'oubliez pas que je suis en attente pour vous.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
Guys, only me and the author of the article delete! But I must say that I don't want to unless members offend each other.
AntwortenLöschenDid the author say why the rein ring should be independent?
AntwortenLöschenNo, he jotted down notes of what he had been taught that day in the SRS. Some are explained, some just statements. Possibly, someone else will know why an independent rein ring is preferred.
AntwortenLöschenRomy
AntwortenLöschenSo very true, and yet something many of us do not think about.
Romy
To the best of my understanding the ring - whether on a Fulmer, Curb or Snaffle - should be independent because the movement via a loose ring makes it more difficult for the horse to tighten /resist &/or lean on the bit (presuming the rider does not have such heavy hands that they cannot feel what is happening) & helps promote relaxation and chewing from the horse. The loose ring keeps the bit more mobile in the equine's mouth than any other ring type.
AntwortenLöschenWhen the lightest of rein pressure is applied to a loose ring bit, it moves slightly before the bit adds pressure to the mouth thus giving the equine a much lighter signal of the request & opportunity to willingly respond to it rather than pressure & possible resistance to a fixed ring bit.
IMHO "happy hackers" &/or those with ambitions of competing in the many & varied equestrian disciplines, if, in the 1st instance, aims were set at working towards "never trying to do in a double bridle what cannot be done in a snaffle" much could be achieved by so many & there would be far less equines struggling to "try to oblige the human race"!
As per the quote from Charles Harris says - "the simpler the bitting the higher "the art"!